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Hi Bob:

We live in Michigan and like most, built our pond way too small. I have three wonderful koi, each about 7" long - they're like little kids and eat out of my fingers - there's also 5 babies. Here's my problem, the pond is only about 16" deep. If I remove the rocks from the bottom I will probably get another 5". I have been told that it would be better to leave the koi in their existing home but am afraid that it might freeze. The pond is about 4' x 4' - about 100+ gallons I suppose.

If we install a pond de-icer and a greenhouse type of structure over the top and disconnect the biofilter will they be okay. Do I also need to run some form of aeration, airstone or pump in addition to the de-icer OR should I set up a 100 gal horse trough and bring them into the garage which will stay around 25-30 throughout the winter. If I do that will I have to run filters, aeration, etc. Since this is already September and the weather is getting cold at night, I need to make plans now rather than later. It will break my heart if I lose them because they froze to death when I could have saved them by taking other steps.

Question two - I want to expand my pond - can I do it with my fish in the existing pond and join the two via a channel type of system and run two biofilters - one in each pond? I want to make the new pond at least 3' deep.

Thanks for your help.




You've got about 180 gallons, Jacque, and the best reason to get the rocks out would be as a way of getting rid of the sludge trapped between them and
reducing the organic and anaerobic load on your pond.

The most efficient way of over-wintering your pond would be to erect a greenhouse over it, and putting an electric radiator inside.(Not in the water!) This will keep the wind off and the winter crud out. The in-water deicers are energy hogs and can be dangerous
if they corrode and short out. An air pump is a great idea. Your filter won't do you any biological good at water temperatures below 45 degrees, but may well keep particulate crud to a minimum. Remember that a filter that is kept running needs to be serviced. It also needs to be watched closely as air temperatures get below freezing. Water does not freeze in any predictable pattern, and random splash can form ice dams that can divert the entire volume of your pond into your yard in short order. Better to shut things down and drain the pipes as the water temp approaches 40 degrees.

If you move your fish into the garage, you'll still need to heat the area to keep the vat from freezing. You are better off with the greenhouse, where you can
get help from the sun.

When you enlarge, use your current (live) filter and that 100 gallon vat as temporary storage. Resist the temptation to do the "connected pond" thing. That stream connection is a classic leak point and the area in front of the stream will become a dead spot. If you are dead set on two ponds connected by a stream, use the upper, smaller pond as a bog pond to augment your filters. Don't try to keep koi in it.


Thanks a million for getting back to me. The pond is built in an irregular shape and surrounded by large rocks which will make it difficult to erect a greenhouse and have it sealed enough. Would putting a piece of plexiglass over the top with an aerator work or at that stage would it be better to just get them out of the pond altogether and put them in the horse trough in the garage. We keep our barn cat in the garage all winter and his water bowl seldom freezes over so the garage normally stays above 20.

Since the horse trough is deeper than the pond are not the chances of it freezing solid if an aerator is running slim? I'm just afraid I can't get the baby fish out of the pond - they are frisky little devils and while two are friendly enough to come and eat from my fingers the younger ones dart from one end of the pond to the other. I also have some wonderful frogs that I will want to try and keep. I know I can sink a flower pot full of sand in the bottom of the pond and they will bury for the winter - if the pond freezes over will they be okay or should I put them in the horse trough, too I'm full of questions aren't I?

Second thought - if we expanded our current pond (rebuilt the existing to be deeper and larger) can we immediately establish the pond's ecosystem and put the koi back into the new pond for the winter or would this stress them too much. I'm between rebuilding the pond this fall or rebuilding it in the spring - what would be best for my little guys? They are really healthy and absolutely beautiful with long sweeping tails - black and red over silver and white. The babies already have the same color as the parents - it appears two or three made it from each of two different breedings because two are much larger than the other three. The ponds balance is perfect - ammonia, nitrates, nitrites, salt are right where they belong - PH in our area is always high so we are running a 9 but the fish and plants seem to have adjusted just fine. A pond place in our area told me that all ponds in Livingston County (where we live) run a PH of 9 or above. We have taken all plants out of the pond except for our water lily since the need for 60% coverage at this time of the year has decreased.

Your advice is really appreciated and I need all the help I can get. The pond lady we have been consulting says I am worrying way too much and that the koi will be just fine because the aerator won't allow the water to freeze - moving water can't freeze but I worry about a power shortage and the fact the pond is relatively shallow.

Jacque



Hi again, Jacque!

Trust me, the greenhouse project is the cheapest and safest alternative, and does not have to be a perfect seal around the bottom. Just build it wide enough to go around the outside of the rock margins, and anchor it well. The frogs and fish will thank you, and the greenhouse effect and wind protection (plus the help of the $30 Home Depot electric radiator) will keep your water from freezing. A high-capacity air pump and
airstone will complete the package. For helpful hints, see the September issue of Koi USA.

Any new pond will have "new pond syndrome". An established pond emerging from winter has a resident, dormant population of beneficial filtering bacteria that just has to wake up and get working to be effective. A newly constructed pond has to develop an entire ecosystem from scratch. Better to protect the pond you have now with fish, frogs and plants still resident (even though it's deeper, that vat in your garage is half the volume and bereft of sun, and won't help your frogs at all) under the greenhouse, and build out in the spring. Remember that the Third Law of Ponding warns that "there is never enough water", so you'll want to dig deeper and wider than you originally planned. Five to six feet deep is considered optimal for koi. Find and join your local water gardening club. They'll be a huge help.

 


Bob Passovoy
President
MPKS

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