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Dear Bob
Thank you very much for getting back to me so quickly!
I've been thinking about this for over a year, and I
really didn't know where to start, so I really appreciate
your feedback.
So the pond is surrounding by 60
foot cliffs on 3 sides (one of which our house is on)
so the viewing from above is really quite good. The
water is definitely not "gin clear", but its
quite easy to see almost anything from above, just because
of the height from above. We've always thought of it
as our private aquarium. The pond is reasonably shallow,
and allows a remarkably good view of 80% of the pond
from the deck. This is one of the reasons I'm really
interested in seeing if we can put something in there.
I'm actually a 23 year old medical student, and this
is my parent's house, but I grew up playing in the pond,
and as a biology major and a self proclaimed "fish
nerd" and fisherman I think I have a pretty good
idea of the ecosystem down there.
I know the predominant species is
grass carp, and while there are a few small bass, they're
population is probably 1/80th of the grasscarp. There
are no panfish as I have seen, and if there are any
other species they are very reclusive. I just know that
because the pond is well suited for grass carp, they
definitely have the run of the place, and its always
fun to watch them. In regards to predators, we occasionally
have a great blue heron that comes by (which I know
could have a field day), and every once in a while have
raccoons, but most of the terrestrial predators are
minimized because the quarry cliffs come down the water
on 3 sides, affording almost no standing room. There
is no outlet to an above ground waterway, and the only
reason we know there's a spring feeding in is because
one end never freezes in the winter. Last night I ordered
a water testing kit, just to make sure that the water
quality was within reasonable parameters for koi. Again,
I really want to thank you for getting back to me, and
I just have a few more questions.
A) If I got some sort of
koi, is it possible to get some kind of pond quality
koi. I'm not looking for any grand champions here, but
I'm just trying to get something pretty to look at from
above. And because its such a big pond, and predation
could be a problem, I feel like I'd need to put in a
high quantity of fish (any ideas for where to buy, cost,
numbers to introduce?).
B) Would I still need to feed these fish pellets in
this natural environment, or would it be possible for
them to feed off the natural ecosystem. Ideally I don't
want to have to feed the fish, because I think its unlikely
that I could feed the Koi selectively over the grasscarp,
and I get the feeling that could get expensive. Also
I don't really want to make the koi targets from avian
predators.
If you could help me with these questions, I would really
appreciate it. My father is from Japan, and I know it
would make his day to see koi in his backyard.
Thanks again, and I look forward
to hearing from you.
Shawn Sato
The problem with "pond quality" koi is that
you tend to get what you pay for. Buying from garden
centers and pet supply places almost guarantees high
parasite loads and the possibility of imported disease.
Any koi big enough to see from the top of a 60-foot
cliff would have to be too big to afford if bought
directly from a dealer, given the risks.
Two solutions present themselves:
1) Talk to a local breeder
(Myron Kloubec
from Amana, Iowa comes to mind.) about a bunch
of yearling koi, specifically fish he would otherwise
cull. You may be able to strike a deal, though you'll
have to wait for them to grow up, and attrition is
likely to be fairly fierce. These fish are not likely
to harbor disease (such as KHV).
2) Come to our koi
and goldfish auction in June. There are generally
some good bargains to be had on larger fish.
From the standpoint of food, there
is probably plenty there naturally, since the grass
carp are thriving. I'd think that supplemental feeding
would be unnecessary.
If you are determined to
go ahead with this, remember to give the new fish
adequate time to adjust to the colder water temperatures
present in your quarry. (See "Snag
'em, bag 'em and drag 'em" in the "Articles"
section of this website.)
Bob Passovoy
President
MPKS
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